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Shipp Descendants of William Shipp
Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 SHIPP was born 1606 in in Norfolk or Kent County, England. He married SARAH JULIAN. Notes for WILLIAM SHIPP: This information is from The Shipp Family Genealogy compiled byRalphD.Shipp, Gateway Pr e s s , Inc. Baltimore, MD, 1975. (Book foundinthePublic Library of Andalusia and Covingto n C o u nty, 212 SouthThreeNotchStreet, Andalusia, Alabama 36420.
Child of WILLIAM SHIPP and SARAH JULIAN is: 2. i. WILLIAM2 SHIPP, b. Abt. 1626.
Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 SHIPP (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1626. He married JANE BUTT.
Child of WILLIAM SHIPP and JANE BUTT is: 3. i. JOSIAH3 SHIPP, b. St. Ann Parish, , Essex Co., Va; d. January 24, 1703/04, in St. Anne's Parrish, Essex County, Virginia.
Generation No. 3 3. JOSIAH3 SHIPP (WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1)1 was born in St. Ann Parish, , Essex Co., Va, and died January 24, 1703/04 in in St. Anne's Parrish, Essex County, Virginia. He married (1) JANE. He married (2) ELIZABETH BROOKS2 1664 in in Rappahannock County, Virginia, daughter of THOMAS BROOKES BROOKS and SUSANNA WYATT.Notes for JOSIAH SHIPP: Appointed by Ann Bray as her loving friend and lawfulattorneytoacknowledge her rig h t s t o a parcel of land sold by herhusband,RichardBray to Edward Allcox, "the quantity be i n g 20 0 acreslying inPiscatawayCreek, November 8, 1673 (Deed and Will Book ofRappahanno c k ,Coun ty.,VA, 1671.)
Children of JOSIAH SHIPP and ELIZABETH BROOKS are: i. RICHARD4 SHIPP, b. St. Ann Parish, Essex, Va; d. September 03, 1723, St. Ann's Parish, Essex Co, Va. 4. ii. JOSIAH SHIPP JR, b. 1687-1693, St Anne's Parish, Essex, Virginia; d. July 16, 1739, St Ann's Parish, Caroline, Virginia. iii. THOMAS SHIPP, b. 1690, St. Ann Parish, Essex, Va; d. February 14, 1745/46, Caroline, Va.
Generation No. 4 4. JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR (JOSIAH3 S HIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1)3 was born 1687-1693 in St Anne's Parish, Essex, Virginia, and died July 16, 1739 in St Ann's Parish, Caroline, Virginia. He married ELIZABETH HODGSON Abt. 1711, daughter of JOHN HODGSON and ELIZABETH.
Child of JOSIAH SHIPP JR and ELIZABETH HODGSON is: 5. i. RICHARD5 SHIPP, b. in Lunenburg County, Virginia; d. August 23, 1778, Edgecombe County, N.C..
Generation No. 5 5. RICHARD5 SHIPP (JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born in in Lunenburg County, Virginia, and died August 23, 1778 in Edgecombe County, N.C.. He married ELIZABETH.Notes for RICHARD SHIPP: Richard Shipp d: in Edgecombe County, NorthCarolinab:inLunenburg County, v i rg i nia .......... +Elizabeth Two of Richard Shipp's nephews also served as patriot soldiersintheRevolutionary War. They were Thomas and Richard Shipp, sons of Richard's brother,JosiahShippIII. Thoma s w a s b orn October 26, 1757. His brother,Richard, wasbornabout 1760, both in Lunenburg Cou nt y , Vi rginia. We know more about the nephew Thomas than we do about the nephew Richard. Thomas enlisted in the army in the spring of 1778 or 1779, while hewasaresident of Su r r y ( later called Stokes) County, NorthCarolina.Heserved three months as a private in Capt a i n J osephCloud'scompany,Colonel Martin Armstrong's North Carolina Regiment. Thomaswa s i n a skirmish with the Tories at Chestnut Ridge near the Dan River. In 1780 he married Hannah Joyce in Lunenburg County, Virginia.Theywerethe parents of t h r e e children, two boys and a girl. He re-enlisted in August 1780 and served 40 days inColonelArmstrong'sregiment and w a s i n t he Battle of King's Mountain.Then inthe summer of1781 he enlisted in Captain Davi d H ump hre y'scompany,Colonel JamesMartin's North Carolina Regiment. Thomas was allowed a pension on his application executed January5,1835,while he was a r e s i dent if Stokes County, North Carolina. He died 2 September 1816 in Stokes County. Nothing is known of the military service of nephew Richard exceptthatheapplied for a pe n s i on in 1842 while living inHolmesCounty,Mississippi. The pension was not approved beca u s e h ecould notfurnishproof of six months service. He had moved about 1785 to Franklin County, Georgia, thentoHickmanCounty, Tennessee , a n d b y 1842 to Holmes County. Nephew Richard died before 1853 in Holmes County.
Children of RICHARD SHIPP and ELIZABETH are: 6. i. EPHRIAM6 SHIPP, d. Sampson County, North Carolina. ii. BENJAMIN SHIPP, d. Hancock County, Georgia. iii. WILLIAM SHIPP. iv. TILLER SHIPP. v. MARY SHIPP, m. JOHN HOLLOWAY, October 21, 1765. vi. SUSANNA SHIPP, m. JESSE WALL. vii. RICHARD SHIPP. viii. JOSIAH SHIPP.
Generation No. 6 6. EPHRIAM6 SHIPP (RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) died in Sampson County, North Carolina5.4 He married ANNE August 16, 18266.Notes for EPHRIAM SHIPP: 1 [1] William Shipp 1606 - 1657 d: 1657inLowerNorfolkCounty, Virgi n i a b : 1606 in Norfolk or KentCounty,England .... +Sarah Julian 1602 - b: 1602 in England *2nd Wife of [1] William Shipp: .... +unknown 2 [48] William Shipp Abt. 1626 - b: Abt. 1626 ..... +Jane Butt 3 Josiah Shipp d: in St. Anne'sParrish,EssexCounty,Virginia ....... +Elizabeth Brooks m: 1664inRappahannockCounty,Virginia .. 4 Josiah Shipp II 1693 - Bef. 1739 d:Bef.1739inCaroline County, Vir g i n ia b: 1693 in St. Anne'sParrish,EssexCounty,Virginia ........ +Elizabeth Hodgson 1676 - m: Abt. 1711b:1676 inSt.Anne's Pa rris h , E ssex County, Virginia ... 5 Richard Shipp d: inEdgecombeCounty,NorthCarolina b: in Lune n b u rg County, virginia .......... +Elizabeth ..... 6 Ephriam Shipp WFT Est. 1706-1735 - WFTEst.1760-1820d:WFT Est. 1760- 1 8 2 0 in Sampson County, North Carolinab:WFTEst.1706-1735 ........... +Ann WFT Est. 1715-1738 - WFT Est.1760-1826m:WFTEst. 1747-1 7 7 9 d : WFT Est. 1760-1826 inSampsonCounty,NorthCarolina b: WFT Est. 1715-1738 ...... 7 Elizabeth Shipp 1789 - 1866 d:December06,1866in ROEVILLE, H e n r y County, ALA b: December 26, 1789inEDGECOMBCO.,N.C. ............. +Stephen Oates 1783 - 1822d:February17,1822 b: 17 8 3 i n Sampso n County, North Carolina ........ 8 Ephriam Oates 1826 - 1911 d: April20,1911inAbbeville, Sou t h C a rolina b: January 27, 1826 in N. C. .............. +Mary Ann Ward 1822 - 1882 m:August16,1826d: November 24 , 1 8 8 2 in Abbeville, Alabama b: June 24,1822 ......... 9 Mary Jane Margaret Oates 1859 - 1939d:August13,1939 in Henr y Coun t y , Alabama b: June 18, 1859innearAbbeville,Henry County, Alabama ................ +Edgar Lindsay 1854 - 1942d:April14,1942 in Headlan d , A labam a Henry County b: 1854 inClapton,AlDaleCounty ........... 10 [3] Alice Olive Lindsay 1888 - 1980d:April25,1980 in Doth an, A a b ama, Houston County b: September27,1888inHeadland, Alabama Henry County ................. +[4] Alpheus Walter Hawkins 1881 -1947m:May06, 1909 d : J u n e 27, 1947 in Dothan, Alabama, HoustonCountyb:June27, 1881 in Sandy Point, Al. (Eufau l a , A labama) ............ 11 [5] Hilda Pearl Hawkins 1912 -1988d:January26, 1988 in D oth a n , Al. b: November 18, 1912inHeadland,Alabama ................... +[6] Joseph Robert Ramsey 1906 -1979m:inDothan, A l . d : N ovember 1979 in Dothan, Alabama HoustonCountyb:July26, 1906 in Pinckard, Alabama .............. ............ 11 [39] Walter Jerome Hawkins 1917 - 1960d:1960inMemory Hill, D o t h an, al b: October 17, 1917 ................... +[40] Jean Hollis ............ 11 [44] Lynn Hawkins 1920 - d:January27b:January 20, 1 9 2 0 i n Headland, Al ........... 10 Viola Lindsay ................. +Homer Flowers ........... 10 Bunch (Malinda) Lindsay ................. +Walter Scott ............ 11 Mary Jordan Scott ................... +Espy .............. 12 Wyatt Espy ........... 10 Ralph Lindsay ................. +Mary ........... 10 Collie Lindsay ................. +Quince Hollon ........... 10 Ruth Lindsay ................. +Miller Guillot ............ 11 Robert Guillot d:inFlorence,Alabama(presiden t o f U o f N orth Alabama) ................... +Patty .............. 12 Patty Ann Guillot .............. 12 Robert Guillot ............... 13 Robert Guillot .............. 12 Lesley Guillot .................... +Jean-Pierre Marquet ............... 13 Etienne Lee Marquet 1996 -b:1996 ........... 10 Nina Lindsay ................. +Glen Hawkins ........... 10 Seva Lindsay ................. +Elma Knowles ........... 10 Clyde Lindsay ........... 10 [45] Helen Lindsay ................. +John Starke ........... *2nd Husband of [45] Helen Lindsay: ................. +Fred Felts ......... 9 Malinda Oates ................ +Dr. Tom Solomon ......... 9 Wyatt Oates ................ +Queen Reynolds ........... 10 Walter Bragg Oates 1878 - b: 1878 ......... 9 [46] Ed Oates ................ +Alice Pierce ......... *2nd Wife of [46] Ed Oates: ................ +Molly Johnson ........ 8 Margaret Jane Oates .............. +Cooper Wiggins ........ 8 Robert Oates .............. +Sarah ......... 9 Alabama C. Oates 1771 - b: 1771 ......... 9 Mahillie Oates 1775 - b: 1775 ......... 9 Stephen Oates 1849 - b: 1849 ......... 9 Mary Oates 1850 - b: 1850 ......... 9 Elizabeth E. N. Oates 1852 - b: 1852 ......... 9 Charles S. Oates 1854 - b: 1854 ......... 9 Susan J. Oates 1858 - b: 1858 ......... 9 James R. Oates 1859 - b: 1859 ......... 9 Sinia A Oates 1869 - b: 1869 ......... 9 John C. Oates 1877 - b: 1877 ........ 8 Phebe Oates ........ 8 William Oates, Col. Civil War and Gov. of Alaba1833-b:Nov emb er 30, 1833 ........ 8 Caroway Oates ........ 8 Robert Oates ........ 8 John Charles Oates WFT Est. 1801-1831-WFTEst.1803-190 9 d : W F T Est. 1803-1909 b: WFT Est.1801-1831 ........ 8 Senia Oates WFT Est. 1801-1831 - WFTEst.1803-1912d:WFT Est. 1803- 1 9 1 2 b: WFT Est. 1801-1831 ........ 8 Ferraby Oates WFT Est. 1801-1831 -WFTEst.1803-1912d: WFT Est . 1803- 1 9 12 b: WFT Est. 1801-1831 ........ 8 Anna Oates 1822 - 1874 d: September16,1874b:May 08, 182 2 i n S a mpson Co. N.C> .............. +Edward Dowling 1820 - 1906 m:October24,1841d: May 21 , 1 9 0 6 b: 1820 in Jeffries Creek SC ......... 9 Lizzie Dowling 1846 - 1916d:December14,1916 in Nagadoche s , T X b : October 21, 1846 inOzark,Alabama ........ 8 Stephen Oates,Jr. 1825 - WFT Est.1866-1916d:WFTEst. 1866-1 9 1 6 b : 1825 in SAMPSON CO. N.C. .............. +Martha Compton 1830 - 1885m:WFTEst.1858-1881 d: Janu a r y 20 , 1885 b: March 25, 1830 inFLORIDA ......... 9 Emma Oates WFT Est. 1847-1872 - WFTEst.1852-1956d:WFT Est. 1852- 1 9 5 6 b: WFT Est. 1847-1872 ......... 9 Elizabeth Oates WFT Est. 1847-1872-WFTEst.1852-195 6 d : W F T Est. 1852-1956 b: WFT Est.1847-1872 ......... 9 Ludie Oates WFT Est. 1847-1872 - WFTEst.1852-1956d:WFT Est. 1852- 1 9 5 6 b: WFT Est. 1847-1872 ......... 9 Arthur Eldridge Oates WFT Est. 1847-1874-WFTEst.1900-1 9 5 7 d : WFT Est. 1900-1957 in TEXASb:WFTEst.1847-1874 in MONTGOMERY , ALABAMA ................ +Fannie Sinclair WFT Est. 1855-1878-Abt.1925m: WFT Est. 18 8 7- 1 914 d: Abt. 1925 in CARLTON, TXb:WFTEst.1855-1878 in JONESBORO, TEXAS ........... 10 Ina Maurine Oates 1897 - 1976d:January20, 1976in DALLA S , TEX A S b: May 01, 1897 in DUBLIN, TEXERATHCO ................. +William Henry Roberts 1890 - 1945m:WFTEst.1925-19 4 2 d : 1 945 in DALLAS, TEXAS b: July 15, 1890inBRYANTEX ............ 11 William Henry Roberts,Jr. Private -b: Private ........... 10 Milard Oates Private - b: Private ........... 10 Merlin Oates Private - b: Private ............ 11 Griffith Oates Private - b: Private ......... 9 Georgia Oates 1853 - WFT Est. 1854-1947d:WFTEst.1854-194 7 b: 1 8 5 3 ......... 9 [47] Charles Stephen Oates 1863 -WFTEst.1894-1954d: WFT Es t . 1894- 1 954 b: January 29, 1863inCONROE,TEXAS ................ +Rose Anna Mcafee 1864 - 1920m:1884inCONROE, TEXA S d : J ul y 27, 1920 in DUBLIN, TEX ERATHCOb:January04, 1864 ........... 10 Blanche Oates 1885 - 1937 d:March10,1937b: Marc h 1 0 , 188 5 in DUBLIN, TEXAS ................. +George Muncie Langdon 1881 - 1863m:WFTEst.1913-19 3 3 d : M ay 17, 1863 b: June 24, 1881 ........... 10 Charles B. Oates Private - b:Private ........... 10 John S. Oates Private - b: Private ......... *2nd Wife of [47] Charles Stephen Oates: ................ +Margaret Turner WFT Est. 1859-1879-WFTEst.1894-196 3 m : W F T Est. 1894-1928 in MERIDIAN d:WFTEst.1894-1963b: WFT Est. 1859-1879 ........ 8 James Oates 1826 - WFT Est. 1827-1916d:WFTEst.1827-191 6 b : 1826 ........ 8 Elizabeth Ann Oates 1832 - WFT Est.1833-1926d:WFTEst. 1833-1 9 2 6 b : 1832 ..... 6 Benjamin Shipp d: in Hancock County, Georgia ..... 6 William Shipp ..... 6 Tiller Shipp ..... 6 Mary Shipp ........... +John Holloway m: October 21, 1765 ..... 6 Susanna Shipp ........... +Jesse Wall m: January 04, 1765 ..... 6 Richard Shipp d: in Hancock County, Georgia ... 5 Josiah Shipp *2nd Wife of [48] William Shipp: ..... +Mary This information is from The Shipp Family Genealogy compiledbyRalphD.Shipp, Gateway Pr e s s , Inc. Baltimore, MD, 1975. (BookfoundinthePublic Library of Andalusia and Covington C o u n ty, 212SouthThreeNotchStreet, Andalusia, Alabama 36420.
Child of EPHRIAM SHIPP and ANNE is: 7. i. ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, b. December 26, 1789, EDGECOMB CO., N.C.; d. December 06, 1866, ROEVILLE, Henry County, ALA.
Generation No. 7 7. ELIZABETH7 SHIPP (EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born December 26, 1789 in EDGECOMB CO., N.C.7, and died December 06, 1866 in ROEVILLE, Henry County, ALA8. She married STEPHEN OATES, son of JAMES OATES and MARY WYATT.
Children of ELIZABETH SHIPP and STEPHEN OATES are: 8. i. ROBERT8 OATES. ii. PHEBE OATES. iii. MARGARET JANE OATES, m. COOPER WIGGINS. iv. WILLIAM OATES , COL. CIVIL WAR AND GOV. OF ALABA. v. CAROWAY OATES. vi. JOHN CHARLES OATES, b. WFT Est. 1801-18319; d. WFT Est. 1803-190910. vii. SENIA OATES, b. WFT Est. 1801-183111; d. WFT Est. 1803-191212. viii. FERRABY OATES, b. WFT Est. 1801-183113; d. WFT Est. 1803-191214. 9. ix. ANNA OATES, b. May 08, 1822, Sampson Co. N.C>; d. September 16, 1874. 10. x. STEPHEN OATES ,JR., b. 1825, SAMPSON CO. N.C.; d. WFT Est. 1866-1916. xi. JAMES OATES, b. 182615; d. WFT Est. 1827-191616. 11. xii. EPHRIAM OATES, b. January 27, 1826, N. C.; d. April 20, 1911, Abbeville, South Carolina. xiii. ELIZABETH ANN OATES, b. 183217; d. WFT Est. 1833-192618.
Generation No. 8 8. ROBERT8 OATES (ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1). He married SARAH.
Children of ROBERT OATES and SARAH are: i. ALABAMA C.9 OATES, b. 1771. ii. MAHILLIE OATES, b. 1775. iii. STEPHEN OATES, b. 1849. iv. MARY OATES, b. 1850. v. ELIZABETH E. N. OATES, b. 1852. vi. CHARLES S. OATES, b. 1854. vii. SUSAN J. OATES, b. 1858. viii. JAMES R. OATES, b. 1859. ix. SINIA A OATES, b. 1869. x. JOHN C. OATES, b. 1877. 9. ANNA8 OATES (ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born May 08, 1822 in Sampson Co. N.C>19, and died September 16, 187420. She married EDWARD DOWLING21,22,23 October 24, 1841, son of DEMPSEY DOWLING and MARTHA STOKES.
Child of ANNA OATES and EDWARD DOWLING is: i. LIZZIE9 DOWLING, b. October 21, 1846, Ozark, Alabama; d. December 14, 1916, Nagadoches, TX. 10. STEPHEN8 OATES ,JR. (ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born 1825 in SAMPSON CO. N.C.24, and died WFT Est. 1866-191625. He married MARTHA COMPTON WFT Est. 1858-188126.
Children of STEPHEN OATES and MARTHA COMPTON are: i. EMMA9 OATES, b. WFT Est. 1847-187227; d. WFT Est. 1852-195628. ii. ELIZABETH OATES, b. WFT Est. 1847-187229; d. WFT Est. 1852-195630. iii. LUDIE OATES, b. WFT Est. 1847-187231; d. WFT Est. 1852-195632. 12. iv. ARTHUR ELDRIDGE OATES, b. WFT Est. 1847-1874, MONTGOMERY , ALABAMA; d. WFT Est. 1900-1957, TEXAS. v. GEORGIA OATES, b. 185333; d. WFT Est. 1854-194734. 13. vi. CHARLES STEPHEN OATES, b. January 29, 1863, CONROE, TEXAS; d. WFT Est. 1894-1954. 11. EPHRIAM8 OATES (ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born January 27, 1826 in N. C., and died April 20, 1911 in Abbeville, South Carolina. He married MARY ANN WARD August 16, 1826, daughter of JAMES WARD and MIRANDA PARRISH.Notes for EPHRIAM OATES: Stephen Oates was born in 1783 and died in 1835. He marriedElizabethAnnShipp. The y h a d a t least three children, James, JohnCharles,andEphraim. The Oates family came to Hen r y C oun ty afterStephen's deathin1835. In 1839 Elizabeth Oates had to settle herhusband' s e sta t esotheir son, James, was made Commissioner for thatpurpose, and theirsonJohn Charl e s w a s given the power of attorney tosettle thematter.Ephraim Oates who was born Jan. 27 , 1 8 2 6 in SampsonCo., NC, hadverylittle formal education because he worked on his mother's pl a ntation inRoeville. He did contribute to the Baptist Church and heservedinArmstrong's M o u n ted Infantry, also know as the HenryMountedRebels,during the Civil War. Ephraim die d o n A p r. 20, 1911inAbbeville, HenryCounty, Alabama and is buried in the AbbevilleCityCeme te r y . Ephraimmarried 1st Mary Ann Ward, daughter of James (b.Nov.1, 1783 in SC, d.Feb. 2 8 , 1 8 60 in Henry Co., AL) andMalinda/MarindaParrish Ward. Shewas born June 24, 1822, die d N o v 2 4,1882 and wasburied in theAbbyville City Cemetery, Henry County, Alabama.Ephrai m a n dMar y Ann hadfive children: Malinda, married Dr. ThomasCarrey, Soloman;Wyatt StephenOa t e s (se e below); Margaret married EdgarLindsay, son ofBenjamin &Mary Jordon Lindsay. 2 oth e r s. Ep hraimmarried 2nd LucySaunders, b.Nov. 19, 1849, d. Sept. 12, 1838. Lucy wasalso bu r i ed i nthe AbbyvilleCity Cemetery, Henry County, Alabama.Ephraim and Lucy'schildren were: E p hra im Oates, William G. Oates, LucyOates and LizzieOates. According to the Memorial Records of Alabama, EphraimOatesinherited12,000 acres of land.
Children of EPHRIAM OATES and MARY WARD are: i. WYATT9 OATES, m. QUEEN REYNOLDS. ii. ED OATES, m. (1) ALICE PIERCE; m. (2) MOLLY JOHNSON. 14. iii. MALINDA OATES, b. January 05, 1851; d. January 20, 1929. 15. iv. MARY JANE MARGARET OATES, b. June 18, 1859, near Abbeville, Henry County, Alabama; d. August 13, 1939, Henry County, Alabama.
Generation No. 9 12. ARTHUR ELDRIDGE9 OATES (STEPHEN8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born WFT Est. 1847-1874 in MONTGOMERY , ALABAMA35, and died WFT Est. 1900-1957 in TEXAS36. He married FANNIE SINCLAIR WFT Est. 1887-191437.
Children of ARTHUR OATES and FANNIE SINCLAIR are: 16. i. INA MAURINE10 OATES, b. May 01, 1897, DUBLIN, TEX ERATH CO; d. January 20, 1976, DALLAS, TEXAS. ii. MILARD OATES, b. Private38. 17. iii. MERLIN OATES, b. Private. 13. CHARLES STEPHEN9 OATES (STEPHEN8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born January 29, 1863 in CONROE, TEXAS39, and died WFT Est. 1894-195440. He married (1) ROSE ANNA MCAFEE 1884 in CONROE, TEXAS41. He married (2) MARGARET TURNER WFT Est. 1894-1928 in MERIDIAN42.
Children of CHARLES OATES and ROSE MCAFEE are: i. BLANCHE10 OATES, b. March 10, 1885, DUBLIN, TEXAS43; d. March 10, 193744; m. GEORGE MUNCIE LANGDON, WFT Est. 1913-193345. ii. CHARLES B. OATES, b. Private46. iii. JOHN S. OATES, b. Private47. 14. MALINDA9 OATES (EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born January 05, 1851, and died January 20, 1929. She married DR. THOMAS CAREY SOLOMON February 20, 1873 in Abbeville, Alabama.
Notes for DR. THOMAS CAREY SOLOMON: after the War of Southern Independence and his marriage the familymovedtoEnterprise Flo r i d a their three children were born there. Maud1875Taein 1878 and Ligon Thomas in 1881 . I n t h e mid 1880s hewastreatingpeople for yellow fever when he came down with the disease . He di ed16/Jul/1888 and he is buried somewhere in Enterprise. If theirsisomeoneon the lis t t h a t is doing research on this family pleasecontactme atLBate18495@aol.com <mailto:LBate 184 9 5 @aol.com> or write meJacobL.Bateman III 3870 Strathmore Drive Montgomery Alabama 3611 6-4 6 14.Thankyou Jacob L. Bateman III
Children of MALINDA OATES and DR. SOLOMON are: 18. i. LIGON THOMAS10 SOLOMON. ii. MAUD SOLOMON, b. 1875; m. REVEREND WILL ELLISON. iii. TAE SOLOMON, b. 1878; m. WILL GRICE. 15. MARY JANE MARGARET9 OATES (EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born June 18, 1859 in near Abbeville, Henry County, Alabama, and died August 13, 1939 in Henry County, Alabama. She married EDGAR LINDSAY November 16, 1879 in Henry County, Alabama, son of BENJAMIN LINDSEY and MARY JORDAN.
Children of MARY OATES and EDGAR LINDSAY are: i. VIOLA10 LINDSAY, m. HOMER FLOWERS. 19. ii. BUNCH (MALINDA) LINDSAY. iii. RALPH LINDSAY, m. MARY. iv. COLLIE LINDSAY, m. QUINCE HOLLON. 20. v. RUTH LINDSAY. vi. NINA LINDSAY, m. GLEN HAWKINS. vii. SEVA LINDSAY, m. ELMA KNOWLES. viii. CLYDE LINDSAY. ix. HELEN LINDSAY, m. (1) JOHN STARKE; m. (2) FRED FELTS. 21. x. ALICE OLIVE LINDSAY, b. September 27, 1888, Headland, Alabama Henry County; d. April 25, 1980, Dothan, Aabama, Houston County.
Generation No. 10 16. INA MAURINE10 OATES (ARTHUR ELDRIDGE9, STEPHEN8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born May 01, 1897 in DUBLIN, TEX ERATH CO48, and died January 20, 1976 in DALLAS, TEXAS49. She married WILLIAM HENRY ROBERTS WFT Est. 1925-194250, son of WILLIAM ROBERTS and MARY BUMPAS.
Child of INA OATES and WILLIAM ROBERTS is: i. WILLIAM HENRY11 ROBERTS ,JR., b. Private51. 17. MERLIN10 OATES (ARTHUR ELDRIDGE9, STEPHEN8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born Private52.
Child of MERLIN OATES is: i. GRIFFITH11 OATES, b. Private53. 18. LIGON THOMAS10 SOLOMON (MALINDA9 OATES, EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1). He married DAISY REDDING.
Children of LIGON SOLOMON and DAISY REDDING are: i. OLIN CAREY11 SOLOMON. ii. DONALD GILBERT SOLOMON, m. NAOMI EPPS. iii. CHARLES PRIOLEAU SOLOMON, m. MYRA BURKE. iv. EMORY REDDING SOLOMON, m. ELSIE CLARE BURDESHAW. 19. BUNCH (MALINDA)10 LINDSAY (MARY JANE MARGARET9 OATES, EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1). She married WALTER SCOTT.
Child of BUNCH LINDSAY and WALTER SCOTT is: i. MARY JORDAN11 SCOTT, m. ESPY. 20. RUTH10 LINDSAY (MARY JANE MARGARET9 OATES, EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1). She married MILLER GUILLOT.
Child of RUTH LINDSAY and MILLER GUILLOT is: i. ROBERT11 GUILLOT, d. Florence, Alabama (president of U of North Alabama); m. PATTY. 21. ALICE OLIVE10 LINDSAY (MARY JANE MARGARET9 OATES, EPHRIAM8, ELIZABETH7 SHIPP, EPHRIAM6, RICHARD5, JOSIAH4 SHIPP JR, JOSIAH3 SHIPP, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born September 27, 1888 in Headland, Alabama Henry County, and died April 25, 1980 in Dothan, Aabama, Houston County. She married ALPHEUS WALTER HAWKINS May 09, 1909, son of THOMAS HAWKINS and MARGARET ADAMS.More About ALICE OLIVE LINDSAY: Cause of Death: alzheimers Children of ALICE LINDSAY and ALPHEUS HAWKINS are: i. ELSIE11 HAWKINS, d. June 28, 2002; m. JOHN CANNON. ii. MARGARET HAWKINS, b. February 1910; d. September 1914. iii. HILDA PEARL HAWKINS, b. November 18, 1912, Headland, Alabama54,55; d. January 26, 1988, Dothan, Al.56,57; m. JOSEPH ROBERT RAMSEY, May 03, 1935, Dothan, Al.. Notes for HILDA PEARL HAWKINS: 1 AUTH Last residence: 36303 1 AGNC State of issue: AL 1 DEST Teacher, Ran the Restaurant at Houston Hotel
[Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2, Ed. 3,SocialSecurityRecords:U.S., SS Death Ben e f i t Records, SurnamesBeginning withR, DateofImport: Jun 19, 1996, Internal Ref. #1.112.3. 4 5 721.91] Individual: Ramsey, Hilda Birth date: Nov 18, 1912 Death date: Jan 26, 1988 Social Security #: 418-60-3895 Last residence: 36303 State of issue: AL In 2001 the Ramsey brothers, Joe, Ed, Bill and Phil donated land thathadonce been par t o f t he Murphy Estate bought by J. Robert Ramsey tothecity for a park memorializing thei r won der ful parents. Dr. J.PaulMaddox, pastor Emeritus of the First Baptist Church deliver ed th eInvocation and Minister's tribute. We thank Thee, oh God, forthememoryof two of Thy c hoi c e and most devoted servant, Robert andHildaRamsey.Their marriage must have been made i n He a ven, for theyweresodevoted to each other and to Thee. How proud they were of theirson s, a nd those they chose to be their brides. How wonderfully blessedtheywere with grandchild r e n of whom they were so very proud. We pray that The Ramsey Park may be a focus of joy and a blessing formanycitizens of Do t h a n in all the years to come. Just as theRamseysdedicated their lives to making Doth a n a b etter place, may wehere todaydedicate ourseves to their high ideals and to a renewe d f ait hin God. We thank Thee that their good name is on this monument, and we praythatthe Scripture insc r i bed on it will be a source of blessingsforgenerations to come. This we ask through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen. The Minister's Tribute Very soon, with the unveiling of this monument, this park willbededicated to the memo r y o f Robert and Hilda Ramsey, but they andtheirsons would want it primarily to be dedicat e d t o the glory of God. I consider it a great privilege to have a part in these ceremoniesofdedication of The Ra m s e y Park. Nearly fifty years ago, when Iwaspastor of the First Baptist Church, I had n o m o re faithfulchurchmembersor friends than Hilda and Robert Ramsey. How appropriate is their choice of the Scripture which hasbeeninscribedon this monumen t , f o und in Proverbs 22: 1, "A good nameisrather to be chosen than great riches, and lovi n g fa vourratherthansilver and gold."All through the years, the Ramsey name hasbeen suchare s pe c ted and honored name in all of this area. What aheritage Mr.and Mrs. Ramsey left to t h ei r sons and their families! Joseph Robert Ramsey was born on July 26, 1906, on Lena Street inDothan,Alabama. He wa s t h e third of four children born to Richard H.Ramseyand Cora Dowling Ramsey. Hilda Pearl (Hawkins) Ramsey was born on November 18, 1912, thesecondchild of Alpheus Wa l t e r Hawkins and Alice Lindsay Hawkins. Robert Ramsey was graduated from the Dothan High School in 1924. He wasacheerleader o f h i s school, president of his literary society,andPresident of the Senior Class. Hilda wa s g r aduated from the samehighschool in 1930. Robert obtained his L. L. B. degree from the Law School oftheUniversityof Alabama. H e w a s a member of the Pi KappaPhisocialfraternity, andthe manager of the baseball team. H i l daattendedMontevallo College for one year and then Troy State, wheresheobtained a teac h i n g certificate. Her first teaching job was aone-roomschool,Flowers Chapel. She subsequ e n tly taught at Ardilla. Robert practiced law in Dothan from 1929-1979, retiring only a fewmonthsprior to his de a t h on November 20, 1979. He was a hard worker,veryfrugal, and gained the respect of ever y o n e with whom he hadcontact.Hewas a credit to his profession, serving as President o f t h eHoustonCounty Bar Association, and as Bar Commissioner for the 20thJudicialCircui t . H e considered his practice to be his "calling" fromGod. He was a member of the Board of Directors of the Dothan Boys Club,theCity National Ban k , t h e Haven, and served as President of theDothanRotary Club. He was also President of t h e C ity Realty Companyand oftheHouston Hotel in Dothan. Joseph Robert Ramsey fell in love with a very beautiful ladynamedHildaHawkins, and th e y w e re married on May 3, 1935, duringthegreatDepression. They lived on Pettus Street i n D oth a n whentheirfirst son ,Joseph Robert Ramsey, Jr. Was born in 1938. The Ramseysmoved t o 1 12 Herring Street in 1939 where their other sons were born;Philipwas born on April 20 , 1 940 ; Edward was born on December 9, 1941,justtwo days after Pearl Harbor; Joel was bor n o n Ma y 3 , 1947, andWilliam,on August15, 1948. Their first born, Bob, died of cancer i n 1946 . In 1951 theymoved to 800 North Cherokee where they lived until 1978,whenthey move d t o # 3 Danmo r Place. Mrs. Ramsey was the disciplinarian of the family, and Mr. Ramsey wasthebreadwinner. Mr . R a msey was a soft-spoken man, who tended tobeapeacemaker. He rarely lost his tmper or ra i s e d hisvoice.Mrs.Ramsey's principal vocation was rearing her children, and theirsonst e l l m e that she was more than equal to the task. She wasespeciallystricton the behavi o r o f thei r sons at church on Sundaymornings.Theirgrandchildren were the love of her lif e . S he wa s notstrict withthem. She couldn't stand to see any of her grandchildrenspanke d . Mr s.Ra msey loved to read, but her favorite social activitieswere spendingtime with h e r frie nds, her church groups, and her luncheonclub. Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey loved to socialize with their friends throughtheirbridge club and o t h e r activities. They loved tripstoAtlanta,Birmingham, Montgomery, Compass Lake, and Pa n a m a City Beach. Mr. Ramsey was a loving husband and father. He came home for lunchalmostevery day . H e w a s always there for his wife and each of hissons. Heacquired the majority interes t i n th e Houston Hotel intheearly'60s.Those were days in which the traveling public was tur ni ngfr o mdowntownhotels to motels. Mrs. Ramsey managed the Hotel Restaurant, andoperated i t pro fitably enough to keep the hotelgoing.The restaurant wasfamousfor its Shrimp Salad a n d lemo n Ice Box Pie. She was loved andrespectedby her staff. She never worried aboutspend i ng mo n ey as longas herhusbnd was alive. However after hisdeath,she became much moreconse r vative. Unfortunately her final yearsweremarred by the slow butsteadyprogression of Alzhe i me r s Disease. I will always remember the Ramseys because of their great faithinGodandlove for their c h u r ch. It would be impossible for me todescribehowmuch Hilda and Robert meant to First Ba p t ist Church duringtheyearsIserved as pastor. They were great encouragers of the pasto r a n dchurchstaff. Serving the Lord through their church was the joy oftheirlives. Durin g s e veral years Mr. Ramsey was Chairman ofDeacons.Mrs.Ramsey was active in the work of Bap t i s t Women. For anumber ofyears she taught a Sunday School class of girls. She was a gra ci oushostess,and it is a joy to remember the Christian hospitality oftheRamseys. I believe that the greatest success for parents is to see theirchildrenbecome Christian s , a nd then make their lives a blessing tothose whoselives they touch. Measured by this hi g h s t andard, if youwant to knowhow well the Ramseys succeeded, just look at their sons, th ei r wives,and grandchildren! The Ramsey sons know that they inherited from their parents a verygoodname. No wonder t h e y have chosen these words from Proverbs tobeinscribed on the back of this monument, "A g o o d name is rather tobechosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and g o ld." How I thank God for the privilege of knowing such wonderfulpeople,andthat their memor y i s b eing perpetuated by a park in ourcitynamed,The Ramsey Park! God bless the Ramsey sons and their families as this monumentisdedicated, and will no w b e u nveiled! Linda Hawkins Woodruff, niece of Hilda Ramsey(herbrotherJerome'sdaughter) spoke at the de d i cation of the park: I am honored to have the opportunity to briefly reminisce aboutmyaunt,Hilda Hawkins Ram s e y . Those of you here today who knew AuntHildaknew her to be a gracious charming South e r n lady. You willremembe rhowimportant her family, her church, and her friends, and her c om munitywere to her. She enjoyed time spent with family and friends athome,atchurch, a n d i n the community. As a teacher in public schools and in Sunday school and with hersons,hergrandchildre n , h e r nephews and her nieces; Aunt Hildademonstratedherlove for children. The only admon i tio n I recall hergiving to us wasthat we "play pretty." Aunt Hilda was a wonderful hoste s s . Sheenjoyed entertaining and she always made each guest feelwelcome, as ifhe or sh e w e re the guest of honor. Aunt Hilda would be delighted with this park, a place wherefamiliesandfriends can enj o y t i me together as she enjoyed time withher familyandfriends and where children can pl a y . I can see her now,smilingandreminding them in her soft Southern voice to "play prett y " andtreating them, their families, and their friends as very specialguestsat Ramsey Park. Note from daughter-in-law Sharman Burson Ramsey: Mom and Dad werealwaysloving and gener o u s . When I would express my thanks fortheirhelp,Mom's response was always "It was my ple a s u re." I can onlypraythat attitude of gratefulness for the privilege of "being abl e t o bethere"for my children will be as evident for them as it was for mewhenMom expressed t ho s e feelings. I was their first "daughter" andenjoyedthe warmth of their love and that o f J o e' s brothers. Ourfavoriteactivityis being together as a family laughing...oh the laug hte r!! !One brother plays off the other brother and soon everyoneissidesplitting with laugh t e r . We are blessed to live in theNorthCherokee home where we have raised our children . B r ooke was thefirstbaby brought home to this house. It is here we gather as a familyfor we d dings and funerals. We are blessed. Truly...ours is a"goodlyheritage." [Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2, Ed. 3, SocialSecurityRecords:U.S., SS Death Bene f i t Records, Surnames Beginning withR, DateofImport: Jun 19, 1996, Internal Ref. #1.112.3.4 5 7 21.91] In 2001 the Ramsey brothers, Joe, Ed, Bill and Phil donated land thathadonce been par t o f t he Murphy Estate bought by J. Robert Ramsey tothecity for a park memorializing thei r won der ful parents. Dr. J.PaulMaddox, pastor Emeritus of the First Baptist Church deliver ed theInvocation and Minister's tribute. We thank Thee, oh God, for thememoryof two of Thy c hoi c e and most devoted servant, Robert andHildaRamsey.Their marriage must have been made i n He a ven, for they weresodevoted toeach other and to Thee. How proud they were of their so ns ,and thosethey chose to be their brides. How wonderfully blessed theywerewith grandchild r e n of whom they were so very proud. We pray that The Ramsey Park may be a focus of joy and a blessing formanycitizens of Dot h a n in all the years to come. Just as theRamseysdedicated their lives to making Dothan a b e t ter place, may wehere todaydedicate ourseves to their high ideals and to a renewed fait h i n God. We thank Thee that their good name is on this monument, and wepraythatthe Scripture inscr i b ed on it will be a source ofblessingsforgenerations to come. I consider it a great privilege to have a part in these ceremoniesofdedication of The Ram s e y Park. Nearly fifty years ago, when Iwaspastor of the First Baptist Church, I had no m o r e faithfulchurchmembers or friends than Hilda and Robert Ramsey. How appropriate is their choice of the Scripture which hasbeeninscribedon this monument , f o und in Proverbs 22: 1, "A good nameisrather to bechosen than great riches, and loving f avo u r ratherthansilver and gold."All through the years, the Ramsey name has been sucharespe c t ed andhonored name in all of this area. What a heritage Mr.andMrs. Ramseyleft to their s o n s and their families! Joseph Robert Ramsey was born on July 26, 1906, on Lena StreetinDothan,Alabama. He wa s t h e third of four children born to RichardH.Ramsey andCora Dowling Ramsey. Hilda Pearl (Hawkins) Ramsey was born on November 18, 1912, thesecondchild of Alpheus Wal t e r Hawkins and Alice Lindsay Hawkins. Robert Ramsey was graduated from the Dothan High School in 1924. Hewasacheerleader o f h i s school, president of his literary society,andPresident of the Senior Class. Hilda wa s g r aduated from the samehighschool in 1930. Robert obtained his L. L. B. degree from the Law School oftheUniversityof Alabama. H e w a s a member of the Pi Kappa Phisocialfraternity, andthe manager of the baseball team. H il d aattendedMontevallo College fo rone year and then Troy State, where sheobtained ateach i n g certificate.Her first teaching job was a one-roomschool,Flowers Chapel. She subsequen t l y taught at Ardilla. Robert practiced law in Dothan from 1929-1979, retiring only afewmonthsprior to his dea t h o n November 20, 1979. He was a hardworker,veryfrugal, and gained the respect of everyo n e wi th whom hehadcontact. He was a credit to his profession, serving as President oftheH o ust onCounty Bar Association, and as Bar Commissioner for the20thJudicial Circuit. He cons i der ed his practice to be his "calling"fromGod. He was a member of the Board of Directors of the Dothan Boys Club,theCity NationalBank , t h e Haven, and served as President of theDothanRotary Club. He was also President of th e Ci t y Realty Companyand ofthe Houston Hotel in Dothan. Joseph Robert Ramsey fell in love with a very beautiful lady namedHildaHawkins, and the y w e re married on May 3, 1935, during thegreatDepression. They lived on Pettus Street in D oth a n when theirfirstson,Joseph Robert Ramsey, Jr. Was born in 1938. The Ramseys movedto11 2 H erring Street in 1939 where their other sons were born; Philipwasborn on April 20, 1940 ; E d ward was born on December 9, 1941, justtwodays after Pearl Harbor; Joel was born on M a y 3 , 1947, and William,onAugust15, 1948. Their first born, Bob, died of cancer in 1946 . I n 1951theymoved to 800 North Cherokee where they lived until 1978, whentheymoved to #3 D anm o r Place. Mrs. Ramsey was the disciplinarian of the family, and Mr. Ramsey wasthebreadwinner. Mr . R a msey was a soft-spoken man, who tended to beapeacemaker. He rarely lost his tmper or r ais e d his voice.Mrs.Ramsey'sprincipal vocation was rearing her children, and their sonstel l m e thatshe was more than equal to the task. She was especiallystricton the behavior of th e i r sons at church on Sunday mornings.Theirgrandchildrenwere the love of her life. Sh e w a s not strict withthem.She couldn't stand to see any of her grandchildren spanked. Mrs . Ra mseyloved toread, but her favorite social activities were spending timewithher friends , h e r church groups, and her luncheon club. Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey loved to socialize with their friends throughtheirbridge club and ot h e r activities. They loved trips toAtlanta,Birmingham, Montgomery, Compass Lake, and Pan a m a City Beach. Mr. Ramsey was a loving husband and father. He came home for lunchalmostevery day. H e w a s always there for his wife and each of hissons. Heacquired the majority interest in t h e H ouston Hotel intheearly '60s.Those were days in which the traveling public was turning f ro m downtownhotels to motels. Mrs. Ramsey managed theHotelRestaurant, and operatedit pro f it ably enough to keep the hotelgoing.The restaurant was famousfor its Shrimp Salad and le m o n Ice BoxPie.She was loved and respectedby her staff. She never worried aboutspending m o n ey as long as herhusbnd was alive. However after hisdeath,she became much more conservat iv e. Unfortunately her final yearsweremarred by the slow but steadyprogression of Alzheim e r s Disease. I will always remember the Ramseys because of their great faith inGodandlove for their ch u r ch. It would be impossible for me todescribehowmuch Hilda and Robert meant to First Bapt i s t Church duringthe yearsIserved as pastor. They were great encouragers of the pastor an d c hurchstaff. Serving the Lord through their church was the joy oftheirlives. During se v er al years Mr. Ramsey was Chairman of Deacons.Mrs.Ramsey was active in the work of Bapti s t W omen. For a number ofyearsshetaught a Sunday School class of girls. She was a gracio u s hostess,and it is a joy to remember the Christian hospitality of theRamseys. I believe that the greatest success for parents is to see theirchildrenbecome Christians, a n d then make their lives a blessing tothosewhoselives they touch. Measured by this high s t a ndard, if youwant toknowhow well the Ramseys succeeded, just look at their sons, theirwi v es, and grandchildren! The Ramsey sons know that they inherited from their parents a verygoodname. No wonder t h e y have chosen these words from Proverbstobeinscribed on the back of this monument, "A g o o d name is rathertobechosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver andgo l d." How I thank God for the privilege of knowing such wonderful people,andthat their memo r y i s being perpetuated by a park in our citynamed,TheRamsey Park! God bless the Ramsey sons and their families as this monumentisdedicated,and will now b e u n veiled! Linda Hawkins Woodruff, niece of Hilda Ramsey (herbrotherJerome'sdaughter) spoke at the d e d ication of the park: I am honored to have the opportunity to briefly reminisce about myaunt,Hilda Hawkins Rams e y . Those of you here today who knew AuntHildaknewher to be a gracious charming Southern l a d y. You willrememberhowimportant her family, her church, and her friends, and hercommun i t ywereto her. She enjoyed time spent with family and friends athome,atchurch, and in t h e c ommunity. As a teacher in public schools and in Sunday school and with hersons,hergrandchildren , h e r nephews and her nieces; Aunt Hildademonstrated herlove for children. The only admoni ti o n I recall hergiving to us wasthat we "play pretty." Aunt Hilda was a wonderful hostes s . Sheenjoyedentertaining and she always made each guest feel welcome,as if heor she w e r e the guest of honor. Aunt Hilda would be delighted with this park, a place where familiesandfriends can enjo y t i me together as she enjoyed time with her familyandfriends and where children can pla y . I c an see her now,smilingandreminding them in her soft Southern voice to "play pretty " a ndtreating them, their families, and their friends as very special guestsatRamseyPark. Note from daughter-in-law Sharman Burson Ramsey: Mom and Dad werealwaysloving and genero u s . When I would express my thanks for theirhelpMom's response was always "It was my pleas u r e." I can only praythatattitude of gratefulness for the privilege of "being able to be t h ere"for my children will be as evident for them as it was for me whenMomexpressed those f e e lings. I was their first "daughter" and enjoyedthewarmth of their love and that of Joe ' s b rothers. Our favoriteactivityis being together as a family laughing...oh the laughter ! ! !One brotherplays off the other brother and soon everyone is sidesplittingwithlaught e r . We are blessed to live in the North Cherokee home wherewehave raised our children. Br o o ke was the first baby brought hometothis house. It is here we gather as a family for wed d i ngsandfunerals. We are blessed.Truly...ours is a "goodly heritage."
More About HILDA PEARL HAWKINS: Cause of Death: Alzheimers, complications of Pneumonia Notes for JOSEPH ROBERT RAMSEY: 1 AUTH son Joel joined him in law firm 1 AGNC died of congestive heart failure as Alzheimers was progressing Was nicknamed "Red" by his high school classmates Written by son Joel Wardlaw Ramsey: JOSEPH ROBERT RAMSEY Born July 26, 1906, on Lena StreetinDothan,Alabama,son of Rich a r d H . and Cora (Dowling) Ramsey. He wasthe third of fourchildren (siblings Cassie, R.H . , J r. , and Frances). One of Dad's earliest recollections was his first taste of a redpepper.Itburned his mou t h s o badly that he had to get up from the tableand runaround the house (today his parent s w ou l d undoubtedly becharged withchild abuse). Despite this bad first experience, Dad al way s liked toeat peppers, radishes and other items too spicy for the restof us. Dad liked to tell us about how poor his family was when he wasgrowingup(in an effort t o m a k e us appreciate how fortunate we were).He hadto sell milk from his wagon in the colo r e d section of town. Whenthecow "went dry," he had to drive it to the Dowling's farm in Pi n ckardwhere it could be put out to pasture. Once on his way back to Dothanhestopped to fi s h ing a stream and actually caught a fish, but when hetookit of fthe hook it flipped back i n t o the water and got away. Dad was so excited about going to school that his first day in thefirstgrade (in a build i n g that still stands and was last used as ahosierymill) he exclaimed: "oh Boy, oh joy, wh e r e do we gofromhere!?"Unfortunately his principal, Claude Pepper (later elected toCongr e s sfrom Florida), overheard the remark, called it insubordination,and"nipped it in the b u d " by taking him to the office for a spanking. The next teacher who mistook Dad's sincerity paid a high priceforit.While he was stil l i n g rade school, he got sick one day and askedtobeallowed to be allowed to go to the rest roo m . Instead his teachermadehim come and sit in her lap and ridiculed him in front of th e cl ass bypretending to comfort him with remarks like "poor little babydoesn'tfeel well? " Y o u ng "Joe Robbie" soon proved that he REALLYdidn't feelwell by throwing up all over he r dr e ss (presumably this wasa learningexperience for the teacher). Fortunatelly most of Joe Robbie's school experiences were muchhappierthan that. Obviou s l y he was a good student and popular,although not anathlete. In high school he was a chee r l eader andpresident of hisliterary society and his senior class (the class of 1924). J. Robert attended the University of Alabama from 1924 through 1929,whenhe earned his L. L . B . degree. He was a member of Pi KappaPhiFraternityand served as manager of the baseb a l l team, thusearningmembership in the "A" Club (which gave Dad a high priority forfootb a l ltick ets onthose rare occasions when he ordered any). Dad practiced law from 1929 to 1979, retiring a few months beforehisdeath. Characterist i c ally, Dad waited for his law license to expireonSept. 30th (he wasn't going to quit with o u t getting the full benefitofthat annual license). He had a general and varied practic e . Includingpractically whatever came in the door. Of course, Dad had anexcellentpractic e , si nce he really was "an honest lawyer." He couldsincerelysay, when asked what he had do n e th at day, "Just tried to do alittlegood in the world." I'm not sure, but I think that during most of his legal career Dad wasasole practitio n e r . However, his first law partner wasprobablyOscarTompkins, a colorful and cantankero u s f ellow who Dad firstknewasone of his teachers. He was also a hobo (better known in tho s e daysas"a bum")who "rode the rails" to see the country and " cowboyed,"amongother thing s . Ho wever, to the extent that Oscar Tompkinsisrememberedat all in the Houston County Ba r A ssoci ation, it is forhisspeech:"S.O.B.s I have known in the Houston County Bar Associati on. "Unfortunately, I wasn't privileged to have heard that speech, but Idoubthe mentioned Da d . Whi le they were practicing together, theydecided thatthey would close the ofice earl y o n Satur days (the usualclosing timewasnoon) and go for rides in the country. Reportedl y tha tpolic y lastedfour weeks (long enough for them to travel in eachdirection). Fortunately for us, Mother noticed Dad and "set her cap" forhim.She"justhappened to be wa l k ing by" his office at quitting timeenough to get himto take her to get a Coke; after th a t h e undoubtedlyneverhad a chance.Ironically Dad's first experience with Mother's father w a s not apleasant one: Dad foreclosed the mortgage on the family home(probablythe one o n t h e corner of Orange and Powell Streets).However,to hiscredit, Mr. Hawkins had no hard fe el i ngs over that,although he didn'tconsider Dad worthy of Hilda Pearl. Despite Mr. Hawkins's misgivings, J. Robert and Hilda were married inherparent's hom e o n M a y 3, 1935. They first resided with UncleRichardand Aunt Lucille before obtaining t hei r f irst home at 112 N.Herring.All5 of their sons were born while they lived there, and t he i roldest,Joseph Robert Ramsey, Jr., (Bob), (1938-1946) died there afteraprotracted strug g l e w ith cancer. (kidney, ed. note) The Ramseys built a beautiful new home in what was then stillmostlywoods, at 800 N. Chero k e e , in 1950-51. They lived there untilall ofthe boys were grown and married, in 1978. M o t her finallyconvinced Dadto build a new home, at 3 Danmor and they moved into it inNovem b e r ofthat year. Getting back to Dad's legal career, his first case was the collection ofatwo dollar acco u n t . His fee was $1, of which he gave 10 centstothechurch. Dad worked hard on his practice, and he tried to be sure we allunderstoodthat money was h a r d to come by, so we had to save and befrugal.However Phil soon got tired of hearing th a t s ermon. Henoticedthatevery day when they picked Dad up in the car after work, hewould f i rs tgo across the street to the Post Office to mail hiscorrespondence. Afterhearing one m o r e time how tight money was, Philfinally told him: "Dad,if you would really work, inste a d o fjustwriting letters all day, wewould have some money." Despite having a successful law practice, lawyers (and doctors) didnotget rich in those d a y s. Dad rarely billed by the hour (his topratewas$25 an hour in 1979), instead he just tr i e d to figure whathisserviceswere worth, and "what the traffic could bear." He had nocomp l aints that I know of. Dad acknowledged that he made most of his money from his realestatedeals. His principa l r e a l estate acquisition was the"MurphyEstate."This transaction was somewhat involved. O n e o f Dad'sMother'ssisters,Lottie Dowling, married Charles D. Murphy, Sr., asuccessfulbusi n es sman but not much of a family man. In fact, he was somean thatwhen he died he left mo s t o f his estate (which wasconsiderable) to thelocal MasonicTemple. The family retained D a d t o file a will contest,and the best lawyers in town became involved on eachside. Final l y t heMasons proposed a settlement: the family could chooseeither the moneyorthe land. D a d ur ged the Murphys to take the land,and they did.However,once the case was over with t h e M urp hys hadsecond thoughts,since they couldn't spend the land and it did not producemu c h in co me.Dad searched for a buyer, and offered it to everyone whowas interested,includi n g his hi gh school classmate, Harry Hall (whoinvested heavily inDothan real estate, and sub s equentl y made enoughmoney to start asavingsand loan business). However times were hard a n dno on e was interestedin buying the land. Therefore Dad agreed topurchase it for the amo u n to f the cash the Masons kept, provided theMurphys agreed tofinance thesale, which they d i d . Thus Dad obtainedthe land where mostofCloverdale Subdivision was developed, and nume r o us other tractsoflandin the city and county. More than half of thispropertyDadtransfe r r e d to City Realty Company, which we continueduntil afterMother's death. Dad was an old fashioned father. He saw his role as the breadwinner,andgenerally lef t t h e child rearing to Mother. She was equal tothetask,and believed in the Proverb "spar e t h e rod and spoil thechild."And her spankings never hurt her more than me. However Dad r are lyraised his hand to us. On one occasion when Ed had exhaustedMother'spatience,Dad inter v e ned and said: "Let me handle thisMother."Whereupon he gave Ed a stern lecture. Ed lear n e d from thatexperience.The next time Mothergot ready to send Ed to get a switch, Edsa i d : "Let's let Dad handle this, Mom." (I doubt that worked, althoughEd didget away with a l ot ,s ince he was always Mother's favorite). A lot of our recollections are centered on the kitchen table, wherewetook our family me a l s together. Dad almost always came homeforlunch(except for Mondays, when he went to th e R o tar y Club). Wewouldwait awhile for Dad and then go ahead; invariably he would drive u po n cewe started eating. On one occasion Dad decided to cure Phil and Ed of gluttony. Afterhegottired of hearin g t h em repeatedly ask for more dessert, he gavethem allthe candy that he could find in th e h o u se. However when theygotsickthat night, Mother was the one who got up to see about t he m .Dadnevertried that with Bill and me. We all had our regular places at the table. Bill sat toDad'sright.OnceDad brought a bu s i n ess acquaintance home to eat withus, andthe gentleman made the mistake of sitting in Bi l l ' s place.Bill warnedhim""You better not sit there; he (Dad) will eat off yourplate." Dad enjoyed good health most of his life, and was rarely sick.Howeverwhen we were in Birm i n gham for Dick Moseley's wedding sometimeduringthe winter of '78-'79, Dad slipped on s o m e i ce while walking upanincline atthe Ramada Hotel and fell, breaking some ribs. Afte r h isretirement he had cataract surgery. Nevertheless he seemed to be ingoodhealth unti lMo n d ay , November 20, 1979. Dad said he didn'tfeelwell,and missed the Rotary Club meeting, w h i ch was very unusualforhim.That evening he walked over to our house, but I was at a Bo y S coutmeeting. When I got home Sharman and I went over and visited withhimand Mother for a w h ile. After midnight, Mother called to say thatDadcouldn't catch his breath, but the para m e dics were tending to him,andthey were going to the hospital. She was sure everything wo u l dbeOK,and she would call me from there. When she did, Dad was gone. JOSEPH ROBERT RAMSEY Born July 26, 1906, on Lena StreetinDothan,Alabama, son of Richa r d H . and Cora (Dowling) Ramsey. He wasthethirdof four children (siblings Cassie, R.H., Jr . , a nd Frances). One of Dad's earliest recollections was his first taste of a redpepper.Itburned his mou t h s o badly that he had to get up from the tableandrunaround the house (today his parents w o ul d undoubtedly bechargedwithchild abuse). Despite this bad first experience, Dad alway s lik edto eatpeppers, radishes and other items too spicy for the rest of us. Dad liked to tell us about how poor his family was when he wasgrowingup(in an effort to m a k e us appreciate how fortunate we were).He hadtosell milk from his wagon in the colored s e c tion of town. Whenthecow"went dry," he had to drive it to the Dowling's farm in Pincka r dwhere itcould be put out to pasture. Once on his way back to Dothanhestoppedto fis h i n a st ream and actually caught a fish, but when hetookit offthe hook it flipped back it o th e wate r and got away. Dad was so excited about going to school that his first day inthefirstgrade (in a build i n g that still stands and was last used asahosierymill) he exclaimed: "oh Boy, oh joy, wh e r e do we gofromhere!?"Unfortunately his principal, Claude Pepper (later electedtoCongres s f rom Florida), overheard the remark, called itinsubordination,and"nipped it in the bud " b y t aking him to the officefor a spanking. The next teacher who mistook Dad's sincerity paid a high priceforit.While he was stil l i n g rade school, he got sick one day and askedtobeallowed to be allowed to go to the rest roo m . Instead histeachermadehim come and sit in her lap and ridiculed him in front of thec la s sbypretending to comfort him with remarks like "poor littlebabydoesn'tfeel well?" You n g " Joe Robbie" soon proved that he REALLYdidn'tfeelwell by throwing up all over her dres s ( pre sumably this wasalearningexperience for the teacher). Fortunatelly most of Joe Robbie's school experiences were muchhappierthanthat. Obvious l y h e was a good student and popular, althoughnotanathlete. In high school he was a cheerl e ade r and presidentofhisliterary society and his senior class (the class of 1924). J. Robert attended the University of Alabama from 1924 through1929,whenhe earned his L.L . B . degree. He was a member of Pi KappaPhiFraternityand served as manager of the basebal l t e am, thusearningmembership inthe "A" Club (which gave Dad a high priority forfootballtic k e ts onthose rare occasions when he ordered any). Dad practiced law from 1929 to 1979, retiring a few monthsbeforehisdeath. Characteristi c a lly, Dad waited for his law license toexpireonSept. 30th (he wasn't going to quit witho u t g etting the fullbenefitofthat annual license). He had a general and varied practice. I ncludingpractically whatever came in the door. Of course, Dad hadanexcellentpractice, sin c e h e really was "an honest lawyer." Hecouldsincerelysay, when asked what he had done th a t day , "Just tried todo alittlegood in the world." I'm not sure, but I think that during most of his legal career Dad wasasole practition e r . However, his first law partner wasprobablyOscarTompkins, a colorful and cantankerous f e l low who Dad firstknew asone ofhis teachers. He was also a hobo (better known in those da y s as"a bum")who "rode the rails" to see the country and " cowboyed,"amongotherthings. H o w ever, to the extent that Oscar Tompkins isrememberedat allin the Houston County Bar Assoc i a tion, it is for hisspeech:"S.O.B.s Ihave known in the Houston County Bar Association." U nfortunately, I wasnot privileged to have heard that speech, but I doubthementioned Dad.Wh i l e they were practicing together, they decidedthatthey would closethe ofice early on Satur d a ys (the usual closingtime wasnoon) and go forrides in the country. Reportedly that pol i c ylastedfour weeks (longenough for them to travel in each direction). Fortunately for us, Mother noticed Dad and "set her cap" for him.She"justhappened to be w a l king by" his office at quitting time enoughtoget himto take her to get a Coke; after th a t h e undoubtedly never hadachance.Ironically Dad's first experience with Mother's fathe r w a s notapleasantone: Dad foreclosed the mortgage on the family home(probablythe one on th e co rner of Orange and Powell Streets). However,to hiscredit, Mr.Hawkins had no hard feel i ng s over that, although hedidn'tconsider Dadworthy of Hilda Pearl. Despite Mr. Hawkins's misgivings, J. Robert and Hilda were marriedinherparent's home o n M a y 3, 1935. They first resided with UncleRichardandAunt Lucille before obtaining thei r fir s t home at 112 N.Herring.All 5of their sons were born while they lived there, and thei r old est,JosephRobert Ramsey, Jr., (Bob), (1938-1946) died there afteraprotractedstruggle w i t h cancer. (kidney, ed. note) The Ramseys built a beautiful new home in what ws then stillmostlywoods,at 800 N. Cherok e e , in 1950-51. They lived there until allof theboyswere grown and married, in 1978. Mot h e r finally convincedDad tobuild anew home, at 3 Danmor and they moved into it in Novemb e r of thatyear. Getting back to Dad's legal career, his first case was the collectionofatwo dollar accou n t . His fee was $1, of which he gave 10 centstothechurch. Dad worked hard on his practice, and he tried to be sure weallunderstoodthat money was h a r d to come by, so we had to save andbefrugal. HoweverPhil soon got tired of hearing tha t s e rmon. Henoticedthat every daywhen they picked Dad up in the car after work, hewouldfi r s t go acrossthe street to the Post Office to mailhiscorrespondence. After hearingone m o r e time how tight money was,Philfinally told him: "Dad, if youwould really work, inste a d o fjustwriting letters all day, we would havesome money." Despite having a successful law practice, lawyers (and doctors) didnotgetrich in those da y s . Dad rarely billed by the hour (his top ratewas$25an hour in 1979), instead he just tr i e d to figure what hisserviceswereworth, and "what the traffic could bear." He had no comp l aints thatIknow of. Dad acknowledged that he made most of his money from hisrealestatedeals. His principal r e a l estate acquisition was the"MurphyEstate."This transaction was somewhat involved. O n e o f Dad'sMother'ssisters,Lottie Dowling, married Charles D. Murphy, Sr., asuccessfulbusi n es smanbut not much of a family man. In fact, he was somean thatwhen he diedhe left mos t o f h is estate (which wasconsiderable) to thelocal MasonicTemple. The family retained Da d t o file a will contest,and the bestlawyers in town became involved on eachside. Finally t he Mas onsproposed a settlement: the family could chooseeither the money ortheland. Dad urg e d th e Murphys to take the land,and they did.However,once the case was over with the Murp h y s had secondthoughts,since theycouldn't spend the land and it did not produce muchinco m e .Dad searchedfor a buyer, and offered it to everyone who wasinterested,includinghis h i g h school classmate, Harry Hall (who investedheavily inDothanreal estate, and subsequent l y m ade enough money tostart a savingsandloan business). However times were hard and no o n e was interestedinbuying the land. Therefore Dad agreed to purchase it forthe amountoft h e cas h the Masons kept, provided the Murphys agreed tofinancethesale, which they did. Th u s Da d obtained the land wheremostofCloverdale Subdivision was developed, and numerous oth e r tra ctsoflandin the city and county. More than half of this propertyDadtransferredto Ci t y Re alty Company, which we continued untilafterMother's death. Dad was an old fashioned father. He saw his role as the breadwinner,andgenerally lef t t h e child rearing to Mother. She was equal tothetask,and believed in the Proverb "spar e t h e rod and spoil thechild."And herspankings never hurt her more than me. However Dad ra re ly raisedhishand to us. On one occasion when Ed had exhausted Mother'spatience,Dadinterv e n ed and said: "Let me handle this Mother."Whereupon he gaveEda stern lecture. Ed lear n e d from that experience.The next timeMothergot ready to send Ed to get a switch, Ed sa i d :"Let's let Dadhandlethis, Mom." (I doubt that worked, although Ed did getaway with al o t ,since he was always Mother's favorite). A lot of our recollections are centered on the kitchen table, wherewetookour family mea l s t ogether. Dad almost always came home forlunch(exceptfor Mondays, when he went to the R o tar y Club). We wouldwait awhile forDad and then go ahead; invariably he would drive up on c ew estartedeating. On one occasion Dad decided to cure Phil and Ed of gluttony. Afterhegottired of hearin g t h em repeatedly ask for more dessert, he gavethemallthe candy that he could find in the h ous e . However when theygotsickthat night, Mother was the one who got up to see about them . D adnevertried that with Bill and me. We all had our regular places at the table. Bill sat to Dad'sright.OnceDad brought a bus i n ess acquaintance home to eat with us,andthegentleman made the mistake of sitting in Bil l ' s place. Billwarnedhim ""You better not sit there; he (Dad) will eat off your plate." Dad enjoyed good health most of his life, and was rarely sick.Howeverwhenwe were in Birmi n g ham for Dick Moseley's wedding sometimeduringthewinter of '78-'79, Dad slipped on som e i c e while walking upanincline atthe Ramada Hotel and fell, breaking some ribs. After hi s retirement hehad cataract surgery. Nevertheless he seemed to be ingoodhealth untilMonday , No v ember 20, 1979. Dad said he didn't feelwell,and missed theRotary Club meeting, whic h wa s v ery unusual forhim. Thatevening hewalked over to our house, but I was at a Boy Scou t meeti ng.When I gothome Sharman and I went over and visited with him andMotherfor awhile . Aft e r midnight, Mother called to say that Dadcouldn'tcatch hisbreath, but the paramedic s wer e t ending to him, andthey weregoing tothe hospital. She was sure everything would b e OK, a nd shewould call mefrom there. When she did, Dad was gone.
More About JOSEPH ROBERT RAMSEY: Cause of Death: congestive heart failure iv. JANIS CLAIRE HAWKINS, b. October 31, 1914, Headland, Alabama; m. RALPH MOSELEY. v. WALTER JEROME HAWKINS, b. October 17, 1917; d. 1960, Memory Hill, Dothan, al; m. JEAN HOLLIS. vi. LYNN HAWKINS, b. January 20, 1920, Headland, Al; d. January 27.
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